GoT Fic!

[netgirl_y2k]

You know, it occurred to me recently, because I've been writing a silly amount, that I don't actually know what the social-norm for posting fic is anymore. Like, are you supposed to post only to AO3 and link, or is each fic meant to get its own LJ/DW post? Do people still hate the AO3? Are fic comms even still a thing? Why is Tumblr?

Me = being bad at things that come naturally to the other kids since an undisclosed point in the 1980s.

Anyway, have some femslash with added dragons. Also, the title has nothing to do with anything, I just panicked.


They Will Crown You, They Will Take Your Legs
Game of Thrones; Daenerys/Doreah; PG; 2000 words.

She is not a god, Doreah told herself, she will not burn you.

Comments

[amaresu]

Ummm...yes. It's basically the same as always, do what you feel like. Don't link to the FF.N version if you don't want to automatically get people to not read, etc, etc.

There are in fact still fic comms. Tumblr is the worst ever for fic.

I like that title.

[netgirl_y2k]

Yeah, I haven't used ff.net since they started randomly deleting punctation (although I do kind of miss some of the comments I got there; some of them were amazingly smart and insightful, some of them were lolsome) and one of these days I really should come up with a way to navigate tumblr more advanced than hoping it will go away if I ignore it for long enough.

It's mostly that thing where you move to fandom most of your f-list isn't in and going, good God, why must I learn to navigate this new thing, which, yes, is pretty similar to the old things, but is still a NEW THING and as such I already hate it.

[amaresu]

I thought we were listing random fic things. I haven't posted over there since I decided no amount of readers was worth dealing with their crappy uploading system. So terrible.

Tumblr is evil. I had to stop reading it altogether because I'd go on for 'a quick check' and look up three hours later. Worse than TV Tropes. Not to mention how awful it is for holding conversations. I read a couple of Tumblrs on my RSS feed and that's it.

I hate that feeling. Especially when you have to figure out where the fandom is hiding. Silly fandoms.

[netgirl_y2k]

People can say what they like about AO3 (and I realise they can say quite a bit, and I don't even necessarily disagree with all of it) but after years of ff.net their uploading system was a godsend.

I have tried to engage with tumblr a number of times, but it's just not for me. And the the thing was the only thing that ever provoked me to reblog or comment was things where people were wrong on the internet and it quickly became a blog almost exclusively of things I hated. Which is just not the way I want to do fandom, you know?

[amaresu]

I'm a tag wrangler and I don't disagree with everything people say. Hell some of the things people say are things we're constantly fighting about behind scenes. But their uploading system was an amazing thing. It's a multifandom archive that I can actually use.

The thing that got me with Tumblr was that I could spend hours there without doing anything of substance. I'd reblog pretty pictures or comic scans and I'd maybe comment on one or two items. There was no depth to the place? If that makes sense. I could engage with people, but it wasn't easy and if the conversation went more than a few back and forths I just felt sorry for anyone following me who didn't care.

Tumblr good for low stress, low impact, low everything fandom. Bad for actually wanting to do fandom.

[miarrow]

I kudosed, because I'm having typing issues, but basically my thoughts would be !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[netgirl_y2k]

Kudoses are good I ♥ kudos.

This was possibly sparked by my reading episode reviews by people who went "...Hang on, there's no evidence Doreah was actually complicit in the conspiracy to steal Dany's dragons, so much as she was trying to make the best of a shitty situation."

[sophinisba]

anatsuno had a good post (starting where it says "Another thing" recently about why it's a good idea to post in more than one place for like when servers go down and such, and I felt sort of bad because I'd mostly just been posting at the AO3 for the last year, and there was discussion in comments.

There are some people who post fic on Tumblr and I DON'T UNDERSTAND THOSE PEOPLE AT ALLLLLL.

[netgirl_y2k]

I had just gotten into the habit of posting only to the AO3 and linking here when the Avengers exploded and the servers went boom, and I went... uh, maybe that was a less than great idea.

Don't get me wrong, there are many things about the AO3 I still want to make-out with (Kudos! The uploading system!) but I think after recent events we're all starting to realise that we'd been perhaps a tad optimistic regarding the archive's robustness and longevity.

I don't know, I need a new system, or a fandom that doesn't so heavily favour locked fic comms, grrr...

SOPHIE, I AM ELDERLY AND CONFUSED AND TUMBLR BAFFLES ME. DON'T LEAVE ME, FANDOM.

[cdybedahl]

I'm also in the "I upload everything to AO3" camp. And I'd like to point out that one way to help fix their performance problems is to simply give them money. Or, if you have contextually useful skills, plain help them out. Unlike pretty much every other archive I know of, their organization is pretty open and transparent.

[netgirl_y2k]

All good points. But, my understanding was that you couldn't donate directly to the archive but to the whole OTW, and while I do love the archive and hope it lasts for a good long while, my feelings on some of their other projects are more, um, mixed. And I doubt that I'm the only person who feels that way.

[cdybedahl]

A very relevant question. I've emailed them asking about the possibility of donating to the AO3 specifically.

[fyrdrakken]

I understand why people choose to post fic to Tumblr -- because they've got a lot of followers there, because things get so easily disseminated there, because it's where they spend so much of their fannish time. What I hate is when they post fics there and nowhere else, because it really sucks as a format to save things in. But, if they're writing stuff they think of as a throwaway, for people to read once and move on, or expect people to just bookmark what they like in the hope it'll still be there if they want to rec someone to it or come back and reread, I can see them as thinking Tumblr is fine.

Doesn't mean I agree. But I can see where the thinking comes from. (What I really prefer is when someone makes a Tumblr post with a link to the fic, which is posted elsewhere -- ideally on AO3.)

[netgirl_y2k]

I don't think I'll ever be a fan of Tumblr, for the same reason I'll never be a big reader of comic books or graphic novels, I'm just not an especially graphics-oriented person. And mostly that' s fine, different strokes and all that.

But as a platform for posting fic and meta, especially if that's the only place you post, it just seems so ill-suited.

[miarrow]

People who post fic (not links, but full fic) on tumblr make me so mad, because I am browsing for pictures not text reactions/non-edited fic.

[fyrdrakken]

Stuff is still getting posted to fic comms, or showing up in recs comms, or being posted in individual LJ and/or DW posts. I definitely prefer it when the people posting are offering up links to the AO3 version as well as the LJ/DW posts -- I've seen a few people including the AO3 link on their own LJ posts (or in their recs posts on an LJ comm, as an alternative to the LJ link they also offer), but a lot seem to think just one link to a given story is sufficient (or possibly that anyone following an LJ comm is happiest getting LJ links). I've picked up the habit of, when provided with a link to an LJ-posted story, going to AO3 and searching for the author's name. I've found the AO3 version of the same story often enough to persist in the habit. (A day or two back I got recced to a story that was LJ-only -- and in 21 parts, some of them broken into a and b sections -- and it filled me with woe. The authors are on AO3, they just haven't uploaded all their old stuff. Mind you, the last time I found one of their Big Bang fics and sucked it up and saved the webpage it was saved to and used Calibre to convert it to MOBI, it turned up on AO3 maybe a few weeks afterwards.)

[netgirl_y2k]

I do that too, search for a fic I've read elsewhere on AO3. Especially when I want to rec an ASOIAF fic that was originally posted to one of the locked comms.

As an aside, I love people who repost their stuff their.

Plus, it's led to a few moments of: Oh, it's you, when people use different names o LJ and the AO3.

[fyrdrakken]

I've been known to delete my previously-saved version of a story (that wasn't even broken up into multiple chapters by LJ posting limits) and replace it with the AO3 version if and when I run across it later (whether because the author posted elsewhere first and uploaded to AO3 later, or because the author has differing usernames on different sites), as well as downloading the MOBI file to add to my Kindle if I think it was worth making easy to reread.

Also, very confusing when people like to change their usernames over time (or have different names on different networks) -- sometimes I gather it's a deliberate thing, wanting a new name for a new fandom, or having picked up a flock of trolls they're trying to ditch by dropping a particular username (I know at least one person this is true for), or having had non-fannish friends and family learn their username and having to frantically cover their tracks (I know two people who've had this problem).