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[netgirl_y2k]

I presume everyone's already seen the new trailer for A Clash of Queens Er, I mean series two of Game of Thrones. I have now watched it approximately fifty bajillion times, here are some feelings I've felt.

1. Oh. God. Sansa. I-- I-- I have feelings about this girl that I have no idea what to do with.
2. Coming in April? What the fuck do you mean coming in April? This is January, why are you showing me this now?
3. And STARKS!, and Robb's face, and Arya my perfect little feral Stark, and Theon I do not enjoy the feelings you make me feel Theon but I feel them anyway, and Dany will raze you all to the ground and then laugh!
4. Jon Snow, are you still in this?

If this entire series doesn't turn out to be subversive propaganda about how Sansa Stark is smarter and stronger than everyone else I will be distraught. Distraught, I say.

Comments

[karatam]

there is no end to my gratefulness that they found such amazing actresses and actors for all my favourites

no end, I say!

[netgirl_y2k]

I know. i keep seeing interviews with Maisie Williams from the making of features, and going: I was not that awesome when I was your age, I'm not that awesome now.

[fly_to_dawn]

Oh my god, I thought my feelings for the ladies of GoT were a temporary last year thing, but no, DAMN that trailer DAMN, because Sansa and Cat and Arya and ughhh just Stark women forever.

[netgirl_y2k]

Right?

Sansa! Arya! Sansa! And Cat has a knife of Littlefinger, when did Cat pull a knife on Littlefinger? Why can I not just upsticks and move to April?

[fyrdrakken]

Just saw that trailer last night. I need to armtwist Mom into reading the series, but for now I'll settle for rewatching the first season, and maybe rereading ADwD.

[netgirl_y2k]

I only recently reread ADwD, and reading it again would just make me impatient for book six and then GRRM will kill a Stark, but I do need to rewatch S1 before the new one starts. I have been trying to tempt my sister into watching it with me by showing her clips of Tyrion on youtube, it seems to be working.

[selenay]

I'm going to assume that Sansa improves as time goes by, because I'm nearly at the end of my first read of Game of Thrones and could quite happily drop-kick her off the Red Keep.

I love Cat, Arya and Dany though. Love, love, love. I thought this was a misogynistic book all about underage rape (I may have read the wrong reviews) but the female characters are the strongest ones and they're awesome! And the bits that the reviewers were talking about took maybe three pages out of the 800. The book is really quite wonderful and the women kick ass. Often literally :-D

[netgirl_y2k]

Sansa improves by leaps and bounds. I'm slightly irrational about Sansa (Donna and Morgana levels of irrational) but by leaps and bounds, yes.

I have many feelings about the alleged misogyny of the books, they are set in an incredibly misogynistic world, yes, but I've always thought that the text itself is pretty explicitly critical of that (even if the fandom, ahem, doesn't always take the hint.) And part of what makes the female characters so appealing to me is that they are all struggling to get by (and be amazing) in a world that is against them at. Literally. Every. Turn. It's actually what makes Sansa so appealing to me, because she's like an object lesson in how you can conform to the patriarchy and do everything it demands of you, and it will destroy you anyway.

Oh, if you're still on the first book then you've got so many amazing women ahead of you, Asha, and Brienne, the Queen of Thorns, and the Sand Snakes, good stuff!

[selenay]

And part of what makes the female characters so appealing to me is that they are all struggling to get by (and be amazing) in a world that is against them at. Literally. Every. Turn.

That is exactly what I'm enjoying and why these are a surprise to me! I knew that if this were a really medieval-type world then the things Martin is describing would happen. What I didn't expect was to find criticism of that in the text and I definitely didn't expect to find women who rose above it in the way that so many of them. They're quite wonderful for it.

I've just read the chapter where Joffrey shows Ned's head to Sansa. I may be starting to see the changes she goes through and I'm approving. If you have Donna-level adoration then I definitely need to see how she grows!

you've got so many amazing women ahead of you

Eeee!

As I approached this as a text that would potentially revolt me and definitely make my feminist sensibilities furious, I'm so pleased to learn how wrong I was :-D

[netgirl_y2k]

As I approached this as a text that would potentially revolt me and definitely make my feminist sensibilities furious, I'm so pleased to learn how wrong I was :-D

I read an interview with GRRM where he was asked about his female characters and he said that all he does is sit down to write them with the aim of making them as complex, flawed and well rounded as his male ones. And it isn't until you see it put like that that you realise how many writers don't do that.

[selenay]

And it isn't until you see it put like that that you realise how many writers don't do that.

I think a lot of writers either approach female characters as some weird creature to be managed or as something that might go away if they wish hard enough. And women writers are, at times, as bad as men in that respect. It sounds like GRRM has a really good attitude to it! I think that I like him :-)