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netgirl_y2k) wrote2013-06-04 11:08 pm
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Gird Your Loins. Gird Your Everything
Fuck me, if ever there was an episode to make me wish I was watching the show unspoiled then that was it.
Tiny, tiny little niggles first. As much as Sam's face when Gilly called him a wizard was a delight, and as much as I love that Jorah's expression whenever he's forced to deal with Daario defaults to: "He's just so dramatic and flamboyant it makes me want to set myself on fire." You and me both, Jorah. But. I really think that they should have been taken out and a scene with Sansa added. This episode should have been just the Starks, all the Starks.
Talisa, what was the point of creating her character, again? I mean, even in-show it makes no sense. I've come to apologise for reneging on my promise to marry your daughter, and for no conceivable reason I've brought my gorgeous pregnant wife with me. And talk about accidentally foreshadowing something that never actually happens. My name is Talisa Maegyr, my dislikes include slavery, my likes include amputating limbs and writing suspicious letters suspiciously, and I am, to even my own surprise, not a spy. Although her being stabbed in the stomach was fucking horrible, and I'm guessing thoroughly debunks the fan theory that Jeyne Westerling is pregnant somewhere with Robb's kid. I'm biased, though, I never liked that theory, it was too neat.
I have to admit I was worried about the Red Wedding, it's supposed to be all about Cat & Robb, but, well, they sacrificed that relationship on the altar of Robb/Talisa, and I worried that they were going to make it all about Robb.
But, no, totally Cat's moment. By the way, this is why, if you've got Michelle Fairley you don't background her, because when you don't she can do this.
My favourite part of the Red Wedding (crying and garment rending not-withsanding) was always Catelyn's sense of rising dread throughout the chapter, and I didn't imagine how that would ever translate. But Cat's face as soon as she hears the first strains of The Rains of Castamere. By the way, I do think the show did a cracking job establishing The Rains of Castamere so that we know it means bad shit when it starts playing at the Twins.
I may resent the way Cat and Cat & Robb's relationship has been sidelined, but Robb's "Mother" was affecting.
I could write more, but most of it would be slight variations of: Michelle Fairley! Michelle Fairley's Face! All The Emmys!
I am actually glad they had Cat kill Walder Frey's wife. I don't know if we're getting Lady Stoneheart (gosh, I hope so) and I have heard segments of fandom complain about people baying for the scalps of all everyone named Frey, regardless of guilt. And though I enjoy the idea of Frey pies as much as anyone, I do see the point. But surely that's the point of Lady Stoneheart, she's vengeance without reason. So it's potent if the last thing she does as Cat is slit the throat of a blameless girl who'd done nothing but have the misfortune to be married off to Walder Frey. Vengeance without reason.
Other thoughts,
Not the wolf! Not the wolf! Don't kill the wolf! Don't-- Oh.
Gosh, that kid who plays Rickon is surprisingly good!
I'm guessing their pushing the Purple Wedding to nest year, then? Because ep 9 is usually the big set-piece, and 10 the fall out.
Tiny, tiny little niggles first. As much as Sam's face when Gilly called him a wizard was a delight, and as much as I love that Jorah's expression whenever he's forced to deal with Daario defaults to: "He's just so dramatic and flamboyant it makes me want to set myself on fire." You and me both, Jorah. But. I really think that they should have been taken out and a scene with Sansa added. This episode should have been just the Starks, all the Starks.
Talisa, what was the point of creating her character, again? I mean, even in-show it makes no sense. I've come to apologise for reneging on my promise to marry your daughter, and for no conceivable reason I've brought my gorgeous pregnant wife with me. And talk about accidentally foreshadowing something that never actually happens. My name is Talisa Maegyr, my dislikes include slavery, my likes include amputating limbs and writing suspicious letters suspiciously, and I am, to even my own surprise, not a spy. Although her being stabbed in the stomach was fucking horrible, and I'm guessing thoroughly debunks the fan theory that Jeyne Westerling is pregnant somewhere with Robb's kid. I'm biased, though, I never liked that theory, it was too neat.
I have to admit I was worried about the Red Wedding, it's supposed to be all about Cat & Robb, but, well, they sacrificed that relationship on the altar of Robb/Talisa, and I worried that they were going to make it all about Robb.
But, no, totally Cat's moment. By the way, this is why, if you've got Michelle Fairley you don't background her, because when you don't she can do this.
My favourite part of the Red Wedding (crying and garment rending not-withsanding) was always Catelyn's sense of rising dread throughout the chapter, and I didn't imagine how that would ever translate. But Cat's face as soon as she hears the first strains of The Rains of Castamere. By the way, I do think the show did a cracking job establishing The Rains of Castamere so that we know it means bad shit when it starts playing at the Twins.
I may resent the way Cat and Cat & Robb's relationship has been sidelined, but Robb's "Mother" was affecting.
I could write more, but most of it would be slight variations of: Michelle Fairley! Michelle Fairley's Face! All The Emmys!
I am actually glad they had Cat kill Walder Frey's wife. I don't know if we're getting Lady Stoneheart (gosh, I hope so) and I have heard segments of fandom complain about people baying for the scalps of all everyone named Frey, regardless of guilt. And though I enjoy the idea of Frey pies as much as anyone, I do see the point. But surely that's the point of Lady Stoneheart, she's vengeance without reason. So it's potent if the last thing she does as Cat is slit the throat of a blameless girl who'd done nothing but have the misfortune to be married off to Walder Frey. Vengeance without reason.
Other thoughts,
Not the wolf! Not the wolf! Don't kill the wolf! Don't-- Oh.
Gosh, that kid who plays Rickon is surprisingly good!
I'm guessing their pushing the Purple Wedding to nest year, then? Because ep 9 is usually the big set-piece, and 10 the fall out.
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Michelle Fairley omfg. I know Cat is not a popular character with a lot of book readers (idek why...she's always been my fav), but I don't think ANYONE could complain about Fairley. Omfg. When Robb says "Mother" and she screams...that gut wrenching, terrible scream... I'm about to cry. She killed that ep. Killed it.
If they don't do Lady Stoneheart I will be heartbroken. But I think they will. I hope they will.
One of the reviews I read (maybe The A. V. Club?) made the point I've been trying to articulate just to myself about Robb/Talisa. The show makes it about love v. honor. Robb is in loooove and chooses that over honor. But in the book it's more heartbreaking and way more Stark that he chooses the honorable thing because he didn't want to besmirch Jeyne's honor rather than choosing to honor a commitment that would have advanced his cause. And that choice is more heartbreaking than in the show, than love. The Starks and their honor. *sigh* It's why we love them.
I thought Maisie Williams did so well too. Just the sweet, hopeful look on her face when she sees Northerners and then the slow and horrible realization when she sees them and Greywind killed. Sansa may look like Cat, but I think Arya has Cat's fierce drive.
Oh, and agreed about Rickon!
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Michelle Fairley for all the everything. and they *have* to do Lady Stoneheart! otherwise what was the point of introducing Dondarion and the Brotherhood? Maybe she gets brought back to life next week and that is the big wtf moment in the finale.
I totally agree with your point about Lady Stoneheart. Cat's last moment is about being overwhelmed with horrible rage and violence. the unjust world that is Westeros has broken her, an otherwise fair and moral woman. and as Lady Stoneheart she now deals that injustice back- a vicious circle.
ugh Talisa, you couldn't even have the decency to be a spy? blergh.
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I could write more, but most of it would be slight variations of: Michelle Fairley! Michelle Fairley's Face! All The Emmys!
OH MY GOD. She was ahhhhhhh so good. Yeah, I did not know that spoiler. (Whereas I did know the big spoiler two years ago about Eddard Stark and knowing that helped curb my emotional reaction.) We were all like AHHH FUCK THIS MUST DRINK MORE BEER NOW. FUCK.
And now Catelyn and her lesbian giantess will NEVER BE REUNITED! And as much as Bri/Jaime is lovely, I still have this Bri/Catelyn ship in my fleet. And AHHHHHHHH.
'Tis all.
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