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I very rarely go to the cinema; it's so expensive, telly is so good these days, and there's so much of it. I think the last thing I went to was Ghostbusters, and I'll probably go again for Atomic Blonde. I feel like as I spend a not inconsiderable amount of time bitching about the lack of female led properties I should throw some coinage at those which come my way.

Which brings us to, ta da, Wonder Woman.

I was dismayed to look at the rota, and see that I don't have a proper day off until late next week. A week and a bit before I could see Wonder Woman. Anything might happen. All the cinemas in Scotland might lose their copies of the film. The internet might decide that it was shit and preemptively ruin it for me. The fandom might come and go without me.

Yes, I could have gone after work, but I've read too many articles about how long it's okay to leave a dog on it's own before you're being unkind. For what it's worth, I don't hold with the view that you shouldn't have a dog unless you're home all day; capitalism is a thing, and I'd guess that there are more dogs needing good homes than there are pensioners, stay at home parents, and people who work from home put together. Still, I think seeing a three hour film after being at work all day anyway is a bit much to ask of the dog. Plus, Freya has some Springer Spaniel in her heritage, and if not sufficiently entertained is wont to, ahem, entertain herself.

Anyway, while sulkily poking at cinema listings I noticed that my local, crappy, suburban cinema was doing midnight screenings last night, and for half the price of waiting and going to the big cinema in town next week. It hasn't cost me a fiver to go to the cinema since I was buying under-12s tickets. And it turned out that the crappy suburban cinema has gone upmarket since I was being taken to see All Dogs Go To Heaven twenty odd years ago - who woulda thunk it? - at least far enough upmarket that they sell wine now. The screens are still pretty basic, but it was actually a relief to just go to a 2D screening without having to scan fruitlessly through 3D listings and ones where, idk, your chair gives you a massage during the film.

I might have slightly scared the boy at the concession stand where I was buying half a bottle of wine and an obscenely large bag of M&M laced popcorn; I'd already come out by myself at midnight on a wednesday, might as well go the whole hog, you know?

"Are you looking forward to Wonder Woman?" he asked.

"ONLY SINCE I WAS THREE," I bellowed, in case the M&Ms, wine, and solitary middle of the night presence weren't clues enough.

Anyway, onto the film:

My expectations were managed. I had seen that the reviews were good, on the other hand earlier in the week I had prepared by sitting through the entirety of Batman v. Superman; three hours of dreck made worth it by the thirty second bit where Wonder Woman appears gauntlets crossed to save Batman, and her theme music swells up.

So better than Batman v. Superman was what I was hoping for, and, IT IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THAT, YOU GUYS.

Themyscira was gorgeous. The amazons were gorgeous; I loved that some of them were played by by actresses, and some by crossfit or kickboxing champions who had just been called up and asked "hey, want to be in Wonder Woman?" Although, I assume I'm not the only one who assumed that Themyscira was a land of heavy to industrial grade lesbianism, and that it was Antiope's lover running to her side when she was shot?

The casting of wee!Diana was spot on. Her baby shadow boxing! The stubborn look on her wee face when Hippolyta told her she wouldn't be a great warrior! Trying to convince her mother to let her train with a shield cause there wouldn't be any sharp edges!

Also, the bit where Diana tells Steve that she's read that though men are necessary for procreation they're surplus to requirements where pleasure is concerned! I have to say, Nu!Kirk does nothing for me, but I found Chris Pine utterly charming here. And I know I'm speaking from a place of industrial grade lesbianism myself, but I think the slightly worn, rough around edges look really works for him.

I loved everything about the sequence in London; Diana as a fish out of water, Etta, Steve lassoing himself with the lasso of truth so she'd know he wasn't lying to her. But the absolute best bits of the film were at the front lines; there's a reason why the sequence of Diana walking out into no man's land was in all the trailers, it was fucking iconic! And the liberation the village had the best fight scenes in the entire movie! My favourite was Diana bursting through that window shield first! And that entire bit - maybe you can't stop a war, but you can save a village; maybe my brain was just numbed from BvS, but that seemed like pretty high level thinking for a DC movie, it certainly beat the crap out of sparing a guy because your mums have the same name.

Diana's belief that she could kill Ares and stop the war just like that could have come across as annoying, and yet didn't; she was naive but not stupid, and Steve not calling her out on it only endeared him to me all the more.

After I'd loved the first two thirds of the movie so very, very much, the big blowout fight between Diana and Ares was a teeny, tiny bit of a letdown. Not because it wasn't a perfectly serviceable huge, ill-defined, CGI fight, but because all these movies have to end with a huge, ill-defined, CGI fight, and this was Wonder Woman's. So in that sense it felt a little by-the-numbers. Also, while I appreciated the twist that the upper class British government guy was Ares, they really needed to shave David Thewlis's moustache for the being thrown for Olympus scene... that did make me go, eh, why does the God of War have a droopy moustache?

I did sense a sort of disconnect between where we left Diana at the end of Wonder Woman and where we found her in Batman v. Superman. BvS and the monologue at the beginning of Wonder Woman made it sound like she'd walked away from humanity entirely, while the end of Wonder Woman seemed to leave her in a much more positive place, and in costume too! So until informed otherwise I've decided to headcanon that Diana has decided that mankind needs to solve mankind's problems, and while she hasn't stepped away from being a hero entirely she only suits up for otherworldly threats, and that's why was in Gotham/ Metropolis during BvS.

Date: 2017-06-01 11:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nrgburst
"Are you looking forward to Wonder Woman?" he asked.

"ONLY SINCE I WAS THREE," I bellowed, in case the M&Ms, wine, and solitary middle of the night presence weren't clues enough.


LOL This is the only correct response to that question, methinks!

Date: 2017-06-02 12:26 am (UTC)
ambyr: a dark-winged man standing in a doorway over water; his reflection has white wings (watercolor by Stephanie Pui-Mun Law) (Default)
From: [personal profile] ambyr
I read my partner the thing about M&M-laced popcorn, and his face screwed up in a look of absolute horror.

"Why would you DO that? Are you sure she isn't Scottish?"

"Hm? I think she is, actually."

"Oh. That explains everything."

"It does? Why?"

"The Scottish will eat ANYTHING."

Apparently, he thinks it's a small step from M&M-laced popcorn to haggis, or maybe it's the other way around.

Date: 2017-06-02 12:36 pm (UTC)
ambyr: a dark-winged man standing in a doorway over water; his reflection has white wings (watercolor by Stephanie Pui-Mun Law) (Default)
From: [personal profile] ambyr
While I do not share his horror, I admit I find the idea of M&M laced popcorn a little puzzling, because . . . don't all the M&Ms, being heavier, fall to the bottom? I guess I could test this theory by experimenting at home, with the bonus of getting to see my partner make horrified faces again.

Date: 2017-06-02 01:11 pm (UTC)
ambyr: a dark-winged man standing in a doorway over water; his reflection has white wings (watercolor by Stephanie Pui-Mun Law) (Default)
From: [personal profile] ambyr
Hmm, all right. I'm thinking of it as a sort of alternative trail mix (pretzels + M&Ms + nuts is classic trail mix, and pretzels and popcorn occupy the same basic food category of being salty and crunchy, right?), and my M&Ms always settle out in that, but I guess when I'm hiking my trail mix is probably getting a whole lot more shaken up than it would if it was just sitting in my lap in a movie theater. So I will trust you that the M&Ms stay evenly distributed! Does it get drenched in fake butter, too, or is that an American thing?

("Yeah, that sounds . . . pretty Scottish. Also horrible."

"Where did you develop this prejudice against the Scottish?"

"I'm not prejudiced against the Scottish! I just try not to think too hard about what they're eating."

For the record, all the food I had in Scotland was lovely. Although I did not experience pizza crunch.)

Date: 2017-06-02 09:13 am (UTC)
endeni: (Default)
From: [personal profile] endeni
Yesss, I definitely thought that was Antiope's lover too! And Chris Pine's worn out look here definitely works for me too haha...
And I completely subscribe to your headcanon of Diana deciding in the end to step up only for otherworldly threats, it makes sense. Agreed on the sight let down of the final battle scene too, maybe because it was so par for the course and expected. I mean if someone could win without having to fight and just by the strenght of her moral character and example and compassion it's definitely her, we've seen it before, her turning enemies into friends rather than going for a killing solution. Though of course that wasn't a solution you could happly to the god of war and I thought the Ares revelation and the one of the true identity of the godkiller thing and Diana being a demigod herself were played well.
Edited Date: 2017-06-02 09:14 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-02 01:12 pm (UTC)
endeni: (Default)
From: [personal profile] endeni
Too true, I don't really feel like nitpicking much either... *_*

Date: 2017-06-03 04:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] miarrow
Dad and I were talking about the CGI stuff, they don't have Industrial Light and Magic like Marvel does, which is probably why their films are all sepia toned and clunky (and also not worth the 3D) in comparison, so that might've had something to do with it.

Date: 2017-06-02 09:50 pm (UTC)
shaggydogstail: (morgana)
From: [personal profile] shaggydogstail
Just got in from seeing it after work with my daughter and, ooh, isn't it fab? Wee!Diana was indeed darling and I really liked how you could still see her in the adult version, especially her idealistic beliefs about saving humanity. It was nice to feel like we've seen her grow up properly.

"ONLY SINCE I WAS THREE," I bellowed, in case the M&Ms, wine, and solitary middle of the night presence weren't clues enough.

Lol. M&M popcorn sounds amazing, yum.

Date: 2017-06-02 10:21 pm (UTC)
shaggydogstail: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shaggydogstail
Same. Would also like Adventures on Themyscira as Saturday tea-time telly. That'd be lovely.

It is quite captivating, yes.

Date: 2017-06-03 04:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] miarrow
It was so good and I felt that rushing moment of FINALLY myself, because it was so good and could have been this good for FUCKING AGES but I was so happy watching SUCH A GOOD film and a Wonder Woman film at that.

I never saw BvS lol, I heard she wasn't in it enough. I might eventually.

Date: 2017-06-06 09:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] batmarg
In trying to avoid spoilers, I didn't read most of the end, but:
My expectations were managed. I had seen that the reviews were good, on the other hand earlier in the week I had prepared by sitting through the entirety of Batman v. Superman; three hours of dreck ....

So better than Batman v. Superman was what I was hoping for, and, IT IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THAT, YOU GUYS.

That last sentence is what I was hoping for. Hopefully, I'll get to see it soon.

As far as the dog, mine are outdoor and well away from a road, so I leave them alone for weekends on occasion, but they do have each other. I wouldn't think the majority of a day away would be bad for an indoor dog. That said, 2 of mine are labs so I fully understand your "gone too long they entertain themselves" problem. The dogs are so well behaved until we're away 2 nights, at which point they will tear up something in the yard to "entertain themselves", despite having a pond, woods, and toys to entertain themselves with. :/

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